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The Brothers Grim was a contemporary pop-rock recording group of the early to mid nineteen-sixties. The Group was managed by Wally Peters who was also the manager of the record department at The House of Sight and Sound, one of Los Angeles' largest full service music stores. The group's first record, YOU'LL NEVER BE MINE (a "Pick Hit of the Week" on one of the greater Los Angeles' areas radio stations), was recorded with hundreds of screaming fans in the background. The record's flip side was an instrumental featuring the group's VOX Continental organ player, C.S. McCleman, entitled SCUZY, which coincided with the release of the Baskin Robbins TM flavor of the month by the same name.

One of The Brothers Grim fans heard Wink Martindale mention on his radio show that he saw a marquee for the The Brothers Grim in North Hollywood and remarked that it was a great name for a group.

The lead singer and guitarist for the group was J.P. Sloane. The bass player was Ron Coleman who also sang lead and backup. Jeff, the group's drummer, was a very talented young studio musician. Jeff played the drums on Maurice Williams' number one hit record, STAY, which also was the cornerstone recording for the all time top selling soundtrack hit movie Dirty Dancing.

In the early 1960's, The Brothers Grim became the first American group to be featured with Vox Amplifiers and guitars which were made famous by the contemporary British group, The Beatles. Joe Banaron, CEO of Warwick Electronics Inc. and President of Thomas Organ, the United States distributor of Vox, along with Bernard Stockly (of London), importer to the United States of the Royal Warranted, Challenge / Eavestaff pianos, arranged for the boys to have full use of the five foot tall AC 100, which later became known as the "Super Beatle," along with other Vox amplifiers. In one of the company's in-house publications, Ron Coleman and J.P. Sloane were featured standing back to back against the big Vox AC 100 Amplifier.

When the group recorded their second record, a cover of Del Shannon's RUNAWAY, they utilized an actual flute instead of using an

organ with a flute setting as was done in the original Shannon version. However, before the release of this record, it was time to renegotiate their contract. It was also at this time The Brothers Grim were under consideration for an appearance on the hit TV show, Shindig, along with an appearance scheduled for the Los Angeles areas popular TV dance show, 9th Street West, a program hosted by Sam Riddle (KHJ-TV Channel 9) who went on to produce Star Search. Unfortunately during the renegotiations of their contract, bass player Ron Coleman backed out of the contract and decided to leave the group. Ron later went on to become the bass player for another “brothers” group…
The Everly Brothers.
The names of other band members are missing, including the group's organ player's first name and the last name of the group's drummer, Jeff. With the exit of Ron Coleman, The Brothers Grim hired a new bass player to finish the group's commitments and television appearances. The second record was never released and The Brothers Grim broke up after their commitments were completed. J.P. Sloane formed and toured the U.S. with a new group called J.P. Sloane and Co. He also did feature appearances throughout the Mid-South with rock and country music legend, Charlie Rich.
If you have any more information on this group, have a copy of their record you could share or know anything about what the other members went on to do, please contact:
Guitarist/Bassist Ron Coleman

The Original Brothers Grim Gold RecordJP Poster


SOME OF THE MORE INTERESTING MAIL WE HAVE RECEIVED:

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Tammy writes:
Did you know the Brothers Grim are mentioned in a book entitled:
"Sixties Rock: Garage, Psychedelic, and Other Satisfactions" - Page 34

Thought you'd like to know. A BIG FAN!
Tammy S., Chicago, IL
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Jeannie writes:
You asked for a copy of their record so I started looking on eBay and Amazon to see if I could find one. I just LOVED The Brothers Grim and thought I could make a copy of it to send to you if I found one...well I found one on eBay but I can't afford it they want $125.00!!!
Sorry I really was hoping to get it
Jenny L., Jackson MS

Thank you Jenny, we checked it out (http://music.shop.ebay.com/Music-/11233/i.html?_kw=brothers&_kw=grim&_kw=%22you%27ll+never+be+mine%22)
I knew they were good but THAT'S REAL GOOD!
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Betty writes:
While looking for the Brothers Grim I found it on "Sports Link-up and they're selling "You'll Never Be Mine" but it's a little high, $125.00:
BROTHERS GRIM: Scuzzy / You'll Never Be Mine. Ref: BROTHERS GRIM: Scuzzy / You'll Never Be Mine. $125.00.
The Senders Kent 320 I Dream Of You Rare Group R&B ... www.sportslinkup.com/shop/0-45-rpm-105-HIGHEST.html

Hope you find one. I really loved the group.
Betty F., Boston MA.
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Sean writes:
I live in Kent where VOX, the equipment that the Brothers Grim used, originated. I found your site and thought I might help acquire a copy of their record for you. We really enjoyed The Brothers Grim even though they weren't around very long over here. What I did find was that their record is available here for £81.33 a bit much for blokes like me to afford but I am sending along a link in case you may wish to invest in it for yourself.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/brothers-grim-Music/s?ie=UTF8&keywords=brothers-grim&rh=n%3A229816%2Ck%3Abrothers-grim&page=1

1 used from £81.33

Sean P. Dartford, Kent UK

Thanks for contacting us Sean. It seems like their records are even more popular worldwide than when they first released them back in the 1960s! Let everyone in Kent know they can be proud of that great Kent-VOX- sound that The Brothers Grim and all of us loved so much!
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Judy from Ohio writes:
I was looking for one of my favorite all time groups from the sixties, The Brothers Grim, and found several web pages that have their recording "You'll Never be Mine" on them. I made a copy of "You'll Never be Mine" which I have sent to you. One of the things I really loved about the sixties was the neat VOX sound many of the groups had and on the Brothers Grim record you can really hear it coming through with the organ and amps! Unfortunately they didn't have any recordings of "Scuzzy" although one did list it on their site. When I found your site on the Internet I was thrilled because you have the most information on them!!! Thanks for remembering them.

Judy M. Ohio

Thanks Judy- As you can see the boy’s records are selling again all over the world for quite a bit of money these days! I know all their fans will appreciate your wonderful musical gift. They can access it by clicking on just below the photo of their record above. Hopefully someone else will come up with their instrumental recording of “Scuzzy.” (When I said all over the world I wasn’t kidding check out this Internet site from Russia.) Go about a quarter of the way down their offering “You’ll Never Be Mine” by The Brothers Grim today—IN RUSSIA!!
аражный Рок http://rock.ru/forum/index.php?topic=7478.0;all
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WEBMASTER- We finally did find The Brothers Grim’s recording of “Scuzzy” offered for sale in Spain for 192,90 € (Euros) Scuzzy / You'll Never Be Mine de brothers grim en Vinilo: compra y ... - Compra y Vende con toda seguridad : Scuzzy / You'll Never Be Mine de brothers grim en Vinilo - Vinilo 7" - 45 R.P.M. nuevo y de segunda mano al mejor precio ...
www.priceminister.es › ... › Música › Vinilos › Vinilos de Rock

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Tom Writes:
You’re not the only ones wanting a copy of The Brothers Grim records, look what I found on the Internet!

I Buy: I buy Phonograph Records, concert posters, 1960's psychedelic ...
May 11, 2009... CONGREGATION "Bringing Me Down" (Kumquat No.1) 996 BROTHERS AND SISTERS "And I Know" (Soft 979) 739 BROTHERS GRIM "You'll never be mine" ...
www.requests.pikaba.com/14040.aspx - Cached -

Tom W. Little Rock
Nice find Tom, maybe the boys should go back into the studio if we could ever find the old band again!

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Brenda writes:
Guess what? I found an old link to The Brothers Grim and “You’ll Never Be Mine. It was the Pick of the Week the week of August 31, 2003 at Garage Rock Radio (www.garagerockradio.com/News0803.htm) I was so excited I wanted to share this with you.

Brenda K, Washington, D.C.

Thanks for writing Brenda WOW Pick of the Week after 39 years I guess they still got it in ‘em!

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Ashley writes:

My moms favorite group of the 60’s was The Brothers Grim and we were reading your site and noticed you didn’t have a copy of their records so we looked on eBay to see if they had any copies and they did but it’s out of our price range, they wanted $125.00!

BROTHERS GRIM: Scuzzy / You'll Never Be Mine | eBay- Mar 15
eBay: Find BROTHERS GRIM: Scuzzy / You'll Never Be Mine in the Music , Records category on eBay.
cgi.ebay.com › Music › Records

Ashley B., Phoenix, AZ

Dear Ashley- Thanks to you and your mom for trying to help, however, as you have probably noticed, we now have “You’ll Never Be Mine” available for you to listen to free of charge. Just click it on at the bottom of their record at the top of the page.

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Erin writes:
I loved the Brothers Grim and went to see them perform many times so why are they listed on the Internet mostly as a garage/punk band? Every time we saw them they acted and dressed really cool and played all our favorite songs of the sixties. I'm so confused!!!

Erin R. Hollywood, CA

Dear Erin- Perhaps its a few reasons. First of all “garage band” is a term used for unknown amatures that presumably got together and practiced in their garages until they become known by playing local gigs or teen parties and the local high school sock hops, etc. However, The Brothers Grim consisted of Hollywood studio musicians as the above page testifies too. Another reason could be the name of their record label which originally was titled “Triple Tigrrr.” The reason for this name was due to the great demand by their fans for a record and their manager created his own label for them to record on and when doing so, because of the rush to press, was advised by the record manufacturer to use a name that nobody else would possibly have until copywrite clearance could be established for “Tiger” records and that’s how the label came about. Lastly one of the recordings the boys made was called “Scuzzy” and in the Punk genre that seemingly cruddy sounding name may have been the motivation for those who classify to place The Brothers Grim as “punk.” Many of the websites are run by music lovers who were not born or very young in the sixties and that too may be part of the reason. Another possibility is that in recent years several hard rock groups have copied the name and “guilt” by association may have come into play. Of course the title “Scuzzy” as stated above was not as nefarious as it may sound today but was simply the boys playing off of “Baskin Robbins” flavor of the month which was named “Scuzzy.”

Whatever the reason they call The Brothers Grim a “garage group” a “punk band” or a "Top 40 rock band of the sixties” we appreciate the thoughtfulness of including them in all of the various websites around the world.

Thanks for writing Erin; We hope we’ve been able to clear that up for you.

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